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And he kinda has different memories idk it feels like he has the same memory bank just that he can remember different things

Happens with us too

I think I dissociate sometimes definitely

Well it could be that I wouldn't put too much thought into it though if it isn't causing problems for you

Wait yeah I do dissociate but it's not really like zone out dissociation most of the times it feels like most of the things I do want by me and I see parts of myself as not me and I feel detached sometimes so maybe that could play a big factor but yeah just like u said I'm not gonna put too much thought

would it help to write an essay about my tulpa? ?

whats your goal in writing an essay about them? like what is it for exactly

idk my friend told me itd help cause they might 'tell me stuff about themselves and chime in' (the tulpa i mean)

8:19 PM

im very new to this sorry, they told me its like "tulpaforcing" ?

ooohhh i see so its for vocality? thatll definitely help since youre directing attention towards them

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alr tyyy ^_^

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i would consider it journaling than an essay, but it's just a word

alrighty

Though a good amount of today, i’ve been actively forcing with Luna in my head but I’m noticing something that’s confusing me

1:15 AM

In my mindvoice, halfway through my sentence forming when I know what I am asking, I sometimes get a response from her before i’m even finished asking and it slurs my thoughts

Yeah, that happens sometimes

1:16 AM

they know what you're thinking so they can know what you're asking before you asked it

That does make sense

1:17 AM

Is there ever a point where they can completely separate and both the tulpa and the host can think separately at the same time

Sploda

In my mindvoice, halfway through my sentence forming when I know what I am asking, I sometimes get a response from her before i’m even finished asking and it slurs my thoughts

I consider it good system etiquette to always let each other finish sentences vocally before responding, just makes for more fulfilling conversations

1:18 AM

Does require holding back sometimes

Sploda

Is there ever a point where they can completely separate and both the tulpa and the host can think separately at the same time

Well, at the same time to who?

1:20 AM

I consider the brain to have one overarching consciousness, and the people/identities/whatever-term in the mind can utilize it

1:21 AM

So "being separate" and "happening at the same time" conflict, because to observe them happening at the same time, there'd need to be awareness of both, which sounds to me like being not-separate

1:21 AM

Unless you meant to ask something less complex, lol

I’m still very new to everything here

But yeah, multiple-different-conscious-processes-at-the-same-time is generally called parallel processing, aaaand most of us don't believe it's normally possible

Hmm

(As in multiple of the same type, otherwise of course the brain is capable of multiple different things at the same time, ie walking and talking and doing something with your hands and visualizing your tulpa)

KIZO!

Like all of our thoughts don't mix or are exposed to each other until we're switched or blurred

Reading what you shared, it does sound like the parallel processing Asmask talked to me about some time ago I remember him telling me he can hear his tulpas thoughts when he's close to them and not when he's far away. He also mentioned memory differences. I don't agree with Asmask's views, but for me it's fascinating to see another system saying the same thing

I actually became more lose with scepticism about parallel processing by lowering the bar and accepting that some level of comfobulation is part of it (edited)

Luminesce: As you would say, people get too caught up on labels (edited)

12:58 PM

Because we tend to define parallel processing as something normally impossible, people give up on the entire concept

Yeah

So what do you guys think a better definition would be?

No, this definition is fine

i personally don’t think definition would help because it would end up with people arguing if something is it or not

-- Luminesce: Here's a post I made (in my own thread as well) about different skills it's possible to train/utilize that could offer a "parallel-processing-like experience", that to this day three years later no one has followed up on lol (edited)

12:59 PM

(Skip the first paragraph, it was unrelated) https://community.tulpa.info/topic/15627-parallel-processing-experiences-practice-megathread/?do=findComment&comment=307069 (edited)

1:00 PM

I'm not especially interested myself, but I know others are, so I put this together after some brainstorming

Interesting--I'll take a look

Luminesce: It would be nice to see someone put in the effort and report back on their progress, tulpamancers have been pretty lazy in recent years (edited)

1:01 PM

Oh sorry, ignore the first paragraph, it was unrelated

i did have experiences kf having a few chains of thought happening at the same time - without the plura context To me it just seemed normal and making it into something magical was just turning me off I see no reason why a tulpa claiming one of the chains of thought to be them

1:03 PM

if someone wants to call it „two consciousnesses”…… sure, call it whatever you want

Luminesce: Basically what I was getting at is people are still limiting themselves too much. I don't think multiplying your brainpower to perform two of the same mental activity at once is possible (aside from incredibly rare exceptions of gifted people), but I sure as heck don't think any tulpamancers are even close to the limit of what they could do yet. (edited)

"But can you walk while talking to someone while checking the weather on your phone while imposing (or visualizing) your tulpa walking with you while counting seconds in your head? Probably not, but is it impossible? If not, then to what extent can this mental muscle be trained?" Ok, I'll admit I've always been a 'parallel processing' skeptic but this post is somewhat changing my mind

Luminesce: I believe this is the one instance of a documented person gifted with a parallel-processing ability I know of: https://radiolab.org/podcast/148670-4-track-mind (edited)

1:06 PM

Ok, I'll admit I've always been a 'parallel processing' skeptic but this post is somewhat changing my mind

Nothing I describe in that post is parallel processing, by my definition

1:06 PM

Parallel processing would be doing math, while doing math.

1:07 PM

However, obviously brains are capable of doing tons of different things at the same time, which is one of the skills I talk about there

Reisen

Parallel processing would be doing math, while doing math.

Fair, which is why I've been a skeptic. But this more limited definition seems plausible

Luminesce: Those are just some ideas I brainstormed because, despite not being interested personally, I was disappointed in the lack of exploration the community was doing on the subject (edited)

The whole community seems a little less "wild west" now than the last time I was around in 2018

1:12 PM

Less new guides, fewer absurd claims, more rigidly defined ideas of what's possible/how to do things (although this last part has become more rigid in the sense that "it's whatever works for you", not "here's a prescriptive task list," which is how it was in 2018--there were just a lot more task lists)

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

I actually became more lose with scepticism about parallel processing by lowering the bar and accepting that some level of comfobulation is part of it (edited)

I'm sure, but one day I want to try and experience parallel processing to see it for myself. Overhyped yes, maybe I'm the only one excited yes, but I think the base experience is interesting enough!

A long kiss goodnight

I'm sure, but one day I want to try and experience parallel processing to see it for myself. Overhyped yes, maybe I'm the only one excited yes, but I think the base experience is interesting enough!

maybe im not that hyped by the ideas that are part of the parallel processsing because i dont find wonderlanding appealing in the first place

Reisen

Ok, I'll admit I've always been a 'parallel processing' skeptic but this post is somewhat changing my mind

Nothing I describe in that post is parallel processing, by my definition

yeah from the beginning i was saying that what people were describing as PP was just not that special rather than impossible, and i was saying they put the bar much lower than you would expect from the hype

3:47 PM

sure you can daydream while you do somethimg - it is a studied phenomena

3:48 PM

i gues my views on PP are now more consistent with my views on tulpamancy - the experience matters, not your explanation of it (edited)

I thought you and the tulpa being able to do different things at the same time was a normal thing?

Nope, not for us!

Nope

Hi ranger hi spiderpunk

Can you guys even like feel different emotions?

4:49 PM

Like different emotions at the same time

Sploda

Hi ranger hi spiderpunk

Hello sploda

I mean

Wane said hello too (edited)

I’ve managed to confuse Luna once or twice in my head

4:50 PM

while trying to convince her that I was thinking something else

Idk man so like you guys just think about the same thing or like process the same thing?

Yeah, but I think sometimes she processes it slightly differently

4:51 PM

for at least a few seconds

Yeah that happens with us or it's completely different

it’s like, one pov that has to be shared

Skyler 🐉

it’s like, one pov that has to be shared

That's interesting

That’s what it’s felt like so far

4:52 PM

last night I woke up pretty early and had a full fledged conversation though

You guys can't have different POVS on the same thing?

we can have different opinions of the same thing, but we have to take our turns to voice them. Can’t voice them at the exact same moment

4:53 PM

think like a group video call

I can't really wrap my head around this somehow because me and Benn/wane have been able to do different things at the same time sometimes I think he goes into the wonderland

works best when people speak one at a time

Skyler 🐉

we can have different opinions of the same thing, but we have to take our turns to voice them. Can’t voice them at the exact same moment

That kinda happens too but sometimes we just speak over each other

4:54 PM

I don't like being interrupted

we can interrupt each other, but they don’t speak at the same time

Oh wow

KIZO!

You guys can't have different POVS on the same thing?

Luminesce: Basically, the brain itself is only consciously aware of one of them (the one who's switched in, so normally the host) You could say a tulpa is experiencing such things too, but it's unconscious, not as "visible" to the brain's consciousness (edited)

4:54 PM

I think that's how it is for most people

At the moment Luna can only seem to respond to me, while she just kinda sits in the back of my mind to give her input when I ask for it

Ohh so like the brain is aware of both when there's double processing or something

4:55 PM

I think we switch between dual processing in some aspects and normal processing

4:56 PM

I don't even know if it's possible but it's kinda like that

4:57 PM

Can your tulpas notice something that you aren't seeing through your eyes?

4:57 PM

Like something you aren't noticing but they are

KIZO!

Can your tulpas notice something that you aren't seeing through your eyes?

I want to know this too

we all receive the same input

Dang

4:58 PM

This is very interesting